AfterStep Themes Discussion

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The whole terminology of themes/skins is full of misunderstandings, so everthing needs to be clearly defined, feel free to correct anything...

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  • a theme is:
    • a subject of composition and/or a distinct, recurring, and unifying quality or idea
    • a set of default settings, which may or may not be overridden by a user
      1. user may enforce his settings though (replacing theme settings with his settings as a whole), to keep him in control if he still needs to. so either: merge gracefully and trust themer to make good decisions for you or discard that theme-aspect (module, menu, whatever) as a whole.
    • a skin (Look in afterstep terminology) is a way to decorate elements a user has set up to be on his desktop, as such a skin is a subset of a theme

    Entities involved with theming

    • user (what he wants and doesnt want to be changed)
    • theme (what themer wants so theme is an experience rather then simple cosmetic changes)
    • theme engine (helps integrate user whishes and themer whishes)

    Theme objectives

    • it defines where stuff lies on the desktop (as such any personal config is in itself a theme)
    • how it reacts/interacts
    • it defines how stuff is decorated
    • other toolkits/apps to be themed

    Atomic Elements that cannot be further reduced that are part of a theme

    • Background
    • IconSet
    • Decor (look -> MyStyles)
      • Windows
      • Window Buttons
      • Menu (including MiniFolders)
      • Modules
        • Wharf
        • Pager
        • Winlist
        • WinTabs
        • banner
    • Feel (FIXME : break down more)
      • Keyboard actions
      • mouse actions
    • Module Decor
    • size and orientation of windowbox (problem here: how to make that look independant)
    • Animation settings
    • Mouse pointer (?)

    Atomic Elements that cannot be further reduced that are´nt part of a theme

    • Color Scheme
    • Mouse speed and buttons

    Things that are ambigious

    This seem to be problematic sections for one of us:

    • Background -> by definition a very personal setting... 3 settings at least : dont_touch, theme(keep picture just make matching frame),replace
    • Menu - switching on and off: mini-folders, recent, texture, unavailable.
    • Feel - Not sure if this should be included or not. Very user-specific. What's the gain for the user?
    • Sounds - based-on events, could have a sci-fi theme, Halloween theme, Simpsons theme, Elmo theme, etc.
    • Modules - Should these be modified? These are very user-specific, and loading them can disrupt an existing setup. Should there be a warning when installing these? ...should be user definable imo...
    • Animations - seven types offered. Can these even be theme-specific? Can additional ones be added? If not, should be decided by user. since the Animate Module is the right one to put opengl/bling support into this should stay in somehow.